A wonderful discussion about cream and white in the Nihon Ken, from the Japanese Kai man Shigeru Kato, who runs the Tora Inu and Nihon Ken blogs. He is respected in the hunting and show scene with Kai, Shikoku and Kishu. This man knows what he is talking about! This is taken from the Nihon Ken Forum, and pretty much sums up all I have come to understand about the issue.

“I had a question from someone about white Shiba, so talked with some NIPPO members and judges about it, and I’m adding my own thoughts as well.

Why are white coats shunned in the NK?

If you take a look at the present NIPPO standard, white is not a ‘non-standard’ color. You can register a white Shiba for instance. White is not however, preferred (i.e. will be severely penalized in the ring) in the Shikoku and Shiba. In Akita, Hokkaido, and Kishu, white is allowed. The NIPPO standard specifically calls for all Kai to be brindle, so white is not allowed.

Why is white not preferred? Written into the present NIPPO standard are all manner of details on conformation, among these is a clause calling for all coat coloration to have strong hues, and for judges to watch for lightening or dilution of color. Any dilution of color is seen as a weakening in the coat color genetic code, leading to loss of that color in the breed. Since NIPPO’s stated goal is preservation, this is unacceptable. The standard also calls for urajiro in the NK. It is obviously not possible to judge whether a white dog has urajiro, or to judge the color hues of the genes it is carrying (other than white).

Exhibit one, the Kishu. The Kishu was not a predominantly white breed. In the early days of the breed it was predominantly ‘yushoku’ (having color). There is ancient art from the area depicting hunting dogs from the area as black, and looking back at some of the first NIPPO exhibitions, the numbers show roughly 70% yushoku, with only 30% of the dogs being white. Fast forward to the present day, and the breed is almost entirely white. How did this happen? Apparently there was a line with some outstanding studs who happened to be white, and they were used extensively. General preference leaned toward white these lines, and toward white Kishu in general. White x yushoku breedings result in mixed litters, but white x white breedings result in only white pups (so I’ve been told and the numbers seem to back that up). So here we are today, the breed has almost completely lost its variety in color.

Source: masakadoshiba.wordpress.com

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